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Feels like I am getting dragged in office politics
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My technical manager and a Business Development person from my office have differences. They have complained about each other to the senior management. They are indulged in office politics and aiming to knock each other down by some way.
Sometime ago the BD person tried to know the internal working of the team I work in. He wanted to know team members opinion about our manager, to which I denied to provide any details.
Now, my manager asks me not to even talk with the BD person. He is really concerned while he is out of office that the BD person would again approach me or other team members . All these things are happening unofficially. Both of them are talking these things either face to face or over a phone call with me. Neither of them has sent any message or email regarding these communications to me.
What shall I do in such situation?
What if BD person again approaches me? Can I tell him that I have been instructed not to discuss anything with him?
Shall I approach HR? (This would really piss my manager off)
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My technical manager and a Business Development person from my office have differences. They have complained about each other to the senior management. They are indulged in office politics and aiming to knock each other down by some way.
Sometime ago the BD person tried to know the internal working of the team I work in. He wanted to know team members opinion about our manager, to which I denied to provide any details.
Now, my manager asks me not to even talk with the BD person. He is really concerned while he is out of office that the BD person would again approach me or other team members . All these things are happening unofficially. Both of them are talking these things either face to face or over a phone call with me. Neither of them has sent any message or email regarding these communications to me.
What shall I do in such situation?
What if BD person again approaches me? Can I tell him that I have been instructed not to discuss anything with him?
Shall I approach HR? (This would really piss my manager off)
human-resources ethics politics
asked 2 hours ago
chrono_tachychrono_tachy
369126
add a comment |
My technical manager and a Business Development person from my office have differences. They have complained about each other to the senior management. They are indulged in office politics and aiming to knock each other down by some way.
Sometime ago the BD person tried to know the internal working of the team I work in. He wanted to know team members opinion about our manager, to which I denied to provide any details.
Now, my manager asks me not to even talk with the BD person. He is really concerned while he is out of office that the BD person would again approach me or other team members . All these things are happening unofficially. Both of them are talking these things either face to face or over a phone call with me. Neither of them has sent any message or email regarding these communications to me.
What shall I do in such situation?
What if BD person again approaches me? Can I tell him that I have been instructed not to discuss anything with him?
Shall I approach HR? (This would really piss my manager off)
human-resources ethics politics
asked 2 hours ago
chrono_tachychrono_tachy
369126
My technical manager and a Business Development person from my office have differences. They have complained about each other to the senior management. They are indulged in office politics and aiming to knock each other down by some way.
Sometime ago the BD person tried to know the internal working of the team I work in. He wanted to know team members opinion about our manager, to which I denied to provide any details.
Now, my manager asks me not to even talk with the BD person. He is really concerned while he is out of office that the BD person would again approach me or other team members . All these things are happening unofficially. Both of them are talking these things either face to face or over a phone call with me. Neither of them has sent any message or email regarding these communications to me.
What shall I do in such situation?
What if BD person again approaches me? Can I tell him that I have been instructed not to discuss anything with him?
Shall I approach HR? (This would really piss my manager off)
human-resources ethics politics
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Stay out of it
If the BD manager asks about your opinion of your boss or team, say something like
"hey, I'm happy to help with any work related stuff, but please direct
questions about our team, structure, how we work and organization to
my boss, who knows way more about it than I do"
If he tries to sneak any extra work on your plate, say something like
"I'm happy to help you with this. Please send me an e-mail with all
the details and copy my boss on it, so he she has full visibility of
my assignments and current work load".
If you boss complains about you talking to the BD, use
I'm not talking to the guy. If he wants something I just brush him off and send him to you. If you want me do something different, let me know.
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
add a comment |
I think that you should at least talk to HR so that they are aware of the situation.
You can let them take the matter forward, or not, as they see fit.
The attitude of these two is not good for the company or the team.
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
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Stay out of it
If the BD manager asks about your opinion of your boss or team, say something like
"hey, I'm happy to help with any work related stuff, but please direct
questions about our team, structure, how we work and organization to
my boss, who knows way more about it than I do"
If he tries to sneak any extra work on your plate, say something like
"I'm happy to help you with this. Please send me an e-mail with all
the details and copy my boss on it, so he she has full visibility of
my assignments and current work load".
If you boss complains about you talking to the BD, use
I'm not talking to the guy. If he wants something I just brush him off and send him to you. If you want me do something different, let me know.
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
add a comment |
Stay out of it
If the BD manager asks about your opinion of your boss or team, say something like
"hey, I'm happy to help with any work related stuff, but please direct
questions about our team, structure, how we work and organization to
my boss, who knows way more about it than I do"
If he tries to sneak any extra work on your plate, say something like
"I'm happy to help you with this. Please send me an e-mail with all
the details and copy my boss on it, so he she has full visibility of
my assignments and current work load".
If you boss complains about you talking to the BD, use
I'm not talking to the guy. If he wants something I just brush him off and send him to you. If you want me do something different, let me know.
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
add a comment |
Stay out of it
If the BD manager asks about your opinion of your boss or team, say something like
"hey, I'm happy to help with any work related stuff, but please direct
questions about our team, structure, how we work and organization to
my boss, who knows way more about it than I do"
If he tries to sneak any extra work on your plate, say something like
"I'm happy to help you with this. Please send me an e-mail with all
the details and copy my boss on it, so he she has full visibility of
my assignments and current work load".
If you boss complains about you talking to the BD, use
I'm not talking to the guy. If he wants something I just brush him off and send him to you. If you want me do something different, let me know.
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
Stay out of it
If the BD manager asks about your opinion of your boss or team, say something like
"hey, I'm happy to help with any work related stuff, but please direct
questions about our team, structure, how we work and organization to
my boss, who knows way more about it than I do"
If he tries to sneak any extra work on your plate, say something like
"I'm happy to help you with this. Please send me an e-mail with all
the details and copy my boss on it, so he she has full visibility of
my assignments and current work load".
If you boss complains about you talking to the BD, use
I'm not talking to the guy. If he wants something I just brush him off and send him to you. If you want me do something different, let me know.
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
answered 1 hour ago
HilmarHilmar
31.3k86991
31.3k86991
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
add a comment |
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
+1 for "Stay out of it". I think the wording of the second one needs to be softened - as it stands it would lead to the OP's manager's rival being able to derail the team by assigning them work they have no business doing. Something like "I'm happy to help you with this, please [raise a ticket/send an email to.../follow the normal process] and we'll add it to our work queue" might be better. Then the OP wouldn't be refusing legitimate work, but would be mitigating any malicious requests.
– Player One
1 hour ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
Good answer. Stay out of the politics as much as you can. Deflect work requests through your boss. Help the BD person, but not in a way that undercuts your actual Manager.
– Joe Strazzere
18 mins ago
add a comment |
I think that you should at least talk to HR so that they are aware of the situation.
You can let them take the matter forward, or not, as they see fit.
The attitude of these two is not good for the company or the team.
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
add a comment |
I think that you should at least talk to HR so that they are aware of the situation.
You can let them take the matter forward, or not, as they see fit.
The attitude of these two is not good for the company or the team.
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
add a comment |
I think that you should at least talk to HR so that they are aware of the situation.
You can let them take the matter forward, or not, as they see fit.
The attitude of these two is not good for the company or the team.
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
I think that you should at least talk to HR so that they are aware of the situation.
You can let them take the matter forward, or not, as they see fit.
The attitude of these two is not good for the company or the team.
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
3,0531017
answered 1 hour ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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