Can you cast a spell on someone in the Ethereal Plane, if you are on the Material Plane and have the True Seeing spell active? The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InWhat can a Succubus do in the Ethereal Plane?Can Force effects from the Border Ethereal affect targets on the Prime Material?What are the implications of being able to see into the Ethereal Plane in Curse of Strahd?Does ethereal chamber work if both caster and target are on the Ethereal Plane?What would happen if a wizard calls a familiar in the Ethereal Plane and then returns to the Material Plane?Can someone on the Ethereal Plane tell if someone on the material plane is a ghost?If you cast Blink, do spells with visual/physical effects centered on the caster follow you to the Ethereal Plane?Is it possible to attack from the Ethereal Plane to the Material Plane?Can Blink and Banishment be combined to have an effect similar to Etherealness?Is it possible to cast the spell Temple of the Gods on the Ethereal Plane?

Is it correct to say the Neural Networks are an alternative way of performing Maximum Likelihood Estimation? if not, why?

If I can cast sorceries at instant speed, can I use sorcery-speed activated abilities at instant speed?

What is the most efficient way to store a numeric range?

What is preventing me from simply constructing a hash that's lower than the current target?

Correct punctuation for showing a character's confusion

Why not take a picture of a closer black hole?

If a sorcerer casts the Banishment spell on a PC while in Avernus, does the PC return to their home plane?

How do PCB vias affect signal quality?

Kerning for subscripts of sigma?

Is one supposed to eat the zero'ah (shank bone) from the Seder plate?

What is this sharp, curved notch on my knife for?

Relationship between Gromov-Witten and Taubes' Gromov invariant

Ubuntu Server install with full GUI

Match Roman Numerals

Does HR tell a hiring manager about salary negotiations?

Did the UK government pay "millions and millions of dollars" to try to snag Julian Assange?

What do these terms in Caesar's Gallic wars mean?

Getting crown tickets for Statue of Liberty

APIPA and LAN Broadcast Domain

Can withdrawing asylum be illegal?

Is Cinnamon a desktop environment or a window manager? (Or both?)

Worn-tile Scrabble

Did Scotland spend $250,000 for the slogan "Welcome to Scotland"?

Is it possible for absolutely everyone to attain enlightenment?



Can you cast a spell on someone in the Ethereal Plane, if you are on the Material Plane and have the True Seeing spell active?



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InWhat can a Succubus do in the Ethereal Plane?Can Force effects from the Border Ethereal affect targets on the Prime Material?What are the implications of being able to see into the Ethereal Plane in Curse of Strahd?Does ethereal chamber work if both caster and target are on the Ethereal Plane?What would happen if a wizard calls a familiar in the Ethereal Plane and then returns to the Material Plane?Can someone on the Ethereal Plane tell if someone on the material plane is a ghost?If you cast Blink, do spells with visual/physical effects centered on the caster follow you to the Ethereal Plane?Is it possible to attack from the Ethereal Plane to the Material Plane?Can Blink and Banishment be combined to have an effect similar to Etherealness?Is it possible to cast the spell Temple of the Gods on the Ethereal Plane?



.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;








4












$begingroup$


A creature is on the Material Plane and can perceive someone on the Ethereal Plane using the True Seeing spell. Can that creature cast a spell that only requires that they see the character on the creature in the Ethereal Plane?



For example, could someone on the Material Plane that has truesight cast Eyebite on a creature it can see in the Ethereal Plane? Eyebite just requires that you see your target, and with truesight the caster can see the creature on the Ethereal Plane.



Etherealness says:




Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal Plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so.




True seeing gives the caster the ability to perceive the person on the Ethereal Plane. The text for Eyebite implies it only requires you to see the target. So can the person on the Material Plane with True Seeing active cast Eyebite on someone the see in the Ethereal plane?



I'm using Eyebite as an example, but it could be applied to any spell that only requires sight.










share|improve this question









New contributor




ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$


















    4












    $begingroup$


    A creature is on the Material Plane and can perceive someone on the Ethereal Plane using the True Seeing spell. Can that creature cast a spell that only requires that they see the character on the creature in the Ethereal Plane?



    For example, could someone on the Material Plane that has truesight cast Eyebite on a creature it can see in the Ethereal Plane? Eyebite just requires that you see your target, and with truesight the caster can see the creature on the Ethereal Plane.



    Etherealness says:




    Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal Plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so.




    True seeing gives the caster the ability to perceive the person on the Ethereal Plane. The text for Eyebite implies it only requires you to see the target. So can the person on the Material Plane with True Seeing active cast Eyebite on someone the see in the Ethereal plane?



    I'm using Eyebite as an example, but it could be applied to any spell that only requires sight.










    share|improve this question









    New contributor




    ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.







    $endgroup$














      4












      4








      4





      $begingroup$


      A creature is on the Material Plane and can perceive someone on the Ethereal Plane using the True Seeing spell. Can that creature cast a spell that only requires that they see the character on the creature in the Ethereal Plane?



      For example, could someone on the Material Plane that has truesight cast Eyebite on a creature it can see in the Ethereal Plane? Eyebite just requires that you see your target, and with truesight the caster can see the creature on the Ethereal Plane.



      Etherealness says:




      Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal Plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so.




      True seeing gives the caster the ability to perceive the person on the Ethereal Plane. The text for Eyebite implies it only requires you to see the target. So can the person on the Material Plane with True Seeing active cast Eyebite on someone the see in the Ethereal plane?



      I'm using Eyebite as an example, but it could be applied to any spell that only requires sight.










      share|improve this question









      New contributor




      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.







      $endgroup$




      A creature is on the Material Plane and can perceive someone on the Ethereal Plane using the True Seeing spell. Can that creature cast a spell that only requires that they see the character on the creature in the Ethereal Plane?



      For example, could someone on the Material Plane that has truesight cast Eyebite on a creature it can see in the Ethereal Plane? Eyebite just requires that you see your target, and with truesight the caster can see the creature on the Ethereal Plane.



      Etherealness says:




      Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal Plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so.




      True seeing gives the caster the ability to perceive the person on the Ethereal Plane. The text for Eyebite implies it only requires you to see the target. So can the person on the Material Plane with True Seeing active cast Eyebite on someone the see in the Ethereal plane?



      I'm using Eyebite as an example, but it could be applied to any spell that only requires sight.







      dnd-5e spells planes targeting ethereal-plane






      share|improve this question









      New contributor




      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.











      share|improve this question









      New contributor




      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.









      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question








      edited 3 hours ago









      Rubiksmoose

      61.2k10294450




      61.2k10294450






      New contributor




      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.









      asked 3 hours ago









      ricitronricitron

      233




      233




      New contributor




      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.





      New contributor





      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.






      ricitron is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
      Check out our Code of Conduct.




















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          5












          $begingroup$

          No, not unless a spell specifically allow it to cross planar boundaries



          Etherealness says:




          You ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane




          Unless the caster has a means to transport their effect to the Ethereal Plane, all spell effects that they create will be in the Material Plane. And since a creature under the effects of etherealness is immune to effects not in the Ethereal Plane they would not be affected by them.



          Additional support comes from the part you already quoted:




          Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so




          True seeing might give a creature the ability to see you, but it does not magically give them the ability to interact with you. You are still on a separate plane. Thus, they are not able to target you with effects for this reason as well as it is a type of interaction.



          Spell which target by sight still have to meet other requirements



          As a related aside: when a spell says that you must be able to see the target, it does not mean that this is the only requirement that the spell has for being able to target something. All spells, for example, must have a clear path to the target (unless something in the spell effect says otherwise) by default.



          Though nothing says it explicitly in the rules, it seems the most logical ruling would be that you do not have a clear path to things on a separate plane from yourself. Spell effects cannot cross planar boundaries unless they explicitly say so. Adding a requirement that you must be able to see the target does not bypass these other considerations.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
            $endgroup$
            – ricitron
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago


















          0












          $begingroup$

          Yes



          While "[y]ou ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane", where a particular spell's effect happens depends on the target of the spell.



          For example:



          • Fireball: "A bright streak flashes from your pointing finger to a point you choose within range ...". Your finger is on the material plane, therefore, so is the Fireball.


          • Hold Person: "Choose a humanoid that you can see within range." You can see them, they are in range (since distance on the Ethereal and the Material have a 1:1 correspondence), the spell can affect them regardless of which plane they are on.


          • Suggestion: "a creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you." If they can hear material things then it affects them, if they can't, it won't. We know from the Etherealness spell that material creatures can't "perceive" ethereal creatures without magic and True Seeing only covers sight not hearing. However, while we know ethereal creatures can see 60 feet into the material we don't know if they can hear into it - in the Forgotten Realms the answer appears no be no but your DM may rule yes.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            11 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
            $endgroup$
            – Dale M
            9 mins ago











          Your Answer





          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
          return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
          StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
          StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
          );
          );
          , "mathjax-editing");

          StackExchange.ready(function()
          var channelOptions =
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "122"
          ;
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
          createEditor();
          );

          else
          createEditor();

          );

          function createEditor()
          StackExchange.prepareEditor(
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: false,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: null,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader:
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          ,
          noCode: true, onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          );



          );






          ricitron is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.









          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f145032%2fcan-you-cast-a-spell-on-someone-in-the-ethereal-plane-if-you-are-on-the-materia%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes








          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes









          5












          $begingroup$

          No, not unless a spell specifically allow it to cross planar boundaries



          Etherealness says:




          You ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane




          Unless the caster has a means to transport their effect to the Ethereal Plane, all spell effects that they create will be in the Material Plane. And since a creature under the effects of etherealness is immune to effects not in the Ethereal Plane they would not be affected by them.



          Additional support comes from the part you already quoted:




          Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so




          True seeing might give a creature the ability to see you, but it does not magically give them the ability to interact with you. You are still on a separate plane. Thus, they are not able to target you with effects for this reason as well as it is a type of interaction.



          Spell which target by sight still have to meet other requirements



          As a related aside: when a spell says that you must be able to see the target, it does not mean that this is the only requirement that the spell has for being able to target something. All spells, for example, must have a clear path to the target (unless something in the spell effect says otherwise) by default.



          Though nothing says it explicitly in the rules, it seems the most logical ruling would be that you do not have a clear path to things on a separate plane from yourself. Spell effects cannot cross planar boundaries unless they explicitly say so. Adding a requirement that you must be able to see the target does not bypass these other considerations.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
            $endgroup$
            – ricitron
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago















          5












          $begingroup$

          No, not unless a spell specifically allow it to cross planar boundaries



          Etherealness says:




          You ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane




          Unless the caster has a means to transport their effect to the Ethereal Plane, all spell effects that they create will be in the Material Plane. And since a creature under the effects of etherealness is immune to effects not in the Ethereal Plane they would not be affected by them.



          Additional support comes from the part you already quoted:




          Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so




          True seeing might give a creature the ability to see you, but it does not magically give them the ability to interact with you. You are still on a separate plane. Thus, they are not able to target you with effects for this reason as well as it is a type of interaction.



          Spell which target by sight still have to meet other requirements



          As a related aside: when a spell says that you must be able to see the target, it does not mean that this is the only requirement that the spell has for being able to target something. All spells, for example, must have a clear path to the target (unless something in the spell effect says otherwise) by default.



          Though nothing says it explicitly in the rules, it seems the most logical ruling would be that you do not have a clear path to things on a separate plane from yourself. Spell effects cannot cross planar boundaries unless they explicitly say so. Adding a requirement that you must be able to see the target does not bypass these other considerations.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
            $endgroup$
            – ricitron
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago













          5












          5








          5





          $begingroup$

          No, not unless a spell specifically allow it to cross planar boundaries



          Etherealness says:




          You ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane




          Unless the caster has a means to transport their effect to the Ethereal Plane, all spell effects that they create will be in the Material Plane. And since a creature under the effects of etherealness is immune to effects not in the Ethereal Plane they would not be affected by them.



          Additional support comes from the part you already quoted:




          Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so




          True seeing might give a creature the ability to see you, but it does not magically give them the ability to interact with you. You are still on a separate plane. Thus, they are not able to target you with effects for this reason as well as it is a type of interaction.



          Spell which target by sight still have to meet other requirements



          As a related aside: when a spell says that you must be able to see the target, it does not mean that this is the only requirement that the spell has for being able to target something. All spells, for example, must have a clear path to the target (unless something in the spell effect says otherwise) by default.



          Though nothing says it explicitly in the rules, it seems the most logical ruling would be that you do not have a clear path to things on a separate plane from yourself. Spell effects cannot cross planar boundaries unless they explicitly say so. Adding a requirement that you must be able to see the target does not bypass these other considerations.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          No, not unless a spell specifically allow it to cross planar boundaries



          Etherealness says:




          You ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane




          Unless the caster has a means to transport their effect to the Ethereal Plane, all spell effects that they create will be in the Material Plane. And since a creature under the effects of etherealness is immune to effects not in the Ethereal Plane they would not be affected by them.



          Additional support comes from the part you already quoted:




          Creatures that aren't on the Ethereal plane can't perceive you and can't interact with you, unless a special ability or magic has given them the ability to do so




          True seeing might give a creature the ability to see you, but it does not magically give them the ability to interact with you. You are still on a separate plane. Thus, they are not able to target you with effects for this reason as well as it is a type of interaction.



          Spell which target by sight still have to meet other requirements



          As a related aside: when a spell says that you must be able to see the target, it does not mean that this is the only requirement that the spell has for being able to target something. All spells, for example, must have a clear path to the target (unless something in the spell effect says otherwise) by default.



          Though nothing says it explicitly in the rules, it seems the most logical ruling would be that you do not have a clear path to things on a separate plane from yourself. Spell effects cannot cross planar boundaries unless they explicitly say so. Adding a requirement that you must be able to see the target does not bypass these other considerations.







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer








          edited 3 hours ago

























          answered 3 hours ago









          RubiksmooseRubiksmoose

          61.2k10294450




          61.2k10294450











          • $begingroup$
            I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
            $endgroup$
            – ricitron
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago
















          • $begingroup$
            I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
            $endgroup$
            – ricitron
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            3 hours ago











          • $begingroup$
            @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            3 hours ago















          $begingroup$
          I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
          $endgroup$
          – ricitron
          3 hours ago





          $begingroup$
          I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, while I understand the "can't perceive you can can't interact with you" part, if the prerequisite for the interaction is perception (being able to see the target, as in the Eyebite spell), then what's preventing the casting of the spell? Is it because as you say all spells cast on the Material Plane can't affect the Ethereal plane unless specifically noted in the spell text?
          $endgroup$
          – ricitron
          3 hours ago













          $begingroup$
          @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
          $endgroup$
          – Rubiksmoose
          3 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          @ricitron correct, also note the last paragraph because perception is not the only requisite for eyebite to take effect. You could not cast it at a creature behind a transparent sheet of glass completely covering it for example (because the spell does not have a clear path). I'll try to make that point clearer in my answer though.
          $endgroup$
          – Rubiksmoose
          3 hours ago












          $begingroup$
          @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
          $endgroup$
          – Rubiksmoose
          3 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          @ricitron does that look like it addresses that concern?
          $endgroup$
          – Rubiksmoose
          3 hours ago












          $begingroup$
          @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
          $endgroup$
          – PixelMaster
          3 hours ago





          $begingroup$
          @Rubiksmoose I think I remember that Crawford tweeted at some point that two people on separate planes, whether the Ethereal is involved or not, are infinitely far away from each other (or something like that). I'm busy studying for an exam tomorrow, so I don't have to time to look it up right now, but if you want to look it up, it might add value to your answer, concerning "a clear path to the target".
          $endgroup$
          – PixelMaster
          3 hours ago













          $begingroup$
          @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
          $endgroup$
          – Rubiksmoose
          3 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          @PixelMaster I'll check it out. Thanks!
          $endgroup$
          – Rubiksmoose
          3 hours ago













          0












          $begingroup$

          Yes



          While "[y]ou ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane", where a particular spell's effect happens depends on the target of the spell.



          For example:



          • Fireball: "A bright streak flashes from your pointing finger to a point you choose within range ...". Your finger is on the material plane, therefore, so is the Fireball.


          • Hold Person: "Choose a humanoid that you can see within range." You can see them, they are in range (since distance on the Ethereal and the Material have a 1:1 correspondence), the spell can affect them regardless of which plane they are on.


          • Suggestion: "a creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you." If they can hear material things then it affects them, if they can't, it won't. We know from the Etherealness spell that material creatures can't "perceive" ethereal creatures without magic and True Seeing only covers sight not hearing. However, while we know ethereal creatures can see 60 feet into the material we don't know if they can hear into it - in the Forgotten Realms the answer appears no be no but your DM may rule yes.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            11 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
            $endgroup$
            – Dale M
            9 mins ago















          0












          $begingroup$

          Yes



          While "[y]ou ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane", where a particular spell's effect happens depends on the target of the spell.



          For example:



          • Fireball: "A bright streak flashes from your pointing finger to a point you choose within range ...". Your finger is on the material plane, therefore, so is the Fireball.


          • Hold Person: "Choose a humanoid that you can see within range." You can see them, they are in range (since distance on the Ethereal and the Material have a 1:1 correspondence), the spell can affect them regardless of which plane they are on.


          • Suggestion: "a creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you." If they can hear material things then it affects them, if they can't, it won't. We know from the Etherealness spell that material creatures can't "perceive" ethereal creatures without magic and True Seeing only covers sight not hearing. However, while we know ethereal creatures can see 60 feet into the material we don't know if they can hear into it - in the Forgotten Realms the answer appears no be no but your DM may rule yes.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            11 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
            $endgroup$
            – Dale M
            9 mins ago













          0












          0








          0





          $begingroup$

          Yes



          While "[y]ou ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane", where a particular spell's effect happens depends on the target of the spell.



          For example:



          • Fireball: "A bright streak flashes from your pointing finger to a point you choose within range ...". Your finger is on the material plane, therefore, so is the Fireball.


          • Hold Person: "Choose a humanoid that you can see within range." You can see them, they are in range (since distance on the Ethereal and the Material have a 1:1 correspondence), the spell can affect them regardless of which plane they are on.


          • Suggestion: "a creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you." If they can hear material things then it affects them, if they can't, it won't. We know from the Etherealness spell that material creatures can't "perceive" ethereal creatures without magic and True Seeing only covers sight not hearing. However, while we know ethereal creatures can see 60 feet into the material we don't know if they can hear into it - in the Forgotten Realms the answer appears no be no but your DM may rule yes.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Yes



          While "[y]ou ignore all objects and effects that aren't on the Ethereal Plane", where a particular spell's effect happens depends on the target of the spell.



          For example:



          • Fireball: "A bright streak flashes from your pointing finger to a point you choose within range ...". Your finger is on the material plane, therefore, so is the Fireball.


          • Hold Person: "Choose a humanoid that you can see within range." You can see them, they are in range (since distance on the Ethereal and the Material have a 1:1 correspondence), the spell can affect them regardless of which plane they are on.


          • Suggestion: "a creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you." If they can hear material things then it affects them, if they can't, it won't. We know from the Etherealness spell that material creatures can't "perceive" ethereal creatures without magic and True Seeing only covers sight not hearing. However, while we know ethereal creatures can see 60 feet into the material we don't know if they can hear into it - in the Forgotten Realms the answer appears no be no but your DM may rule yes.







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer








          edited 11 mins ago









          V2Blast

          26.6k591162




          26.6k591162










          answered 17 mins ago









          Dale MDale M

          111k24289490




          111k24289490











          • $begingroup$
            Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            11 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
            $endgroup$
            – Dale M
            9 mins ago
















          • $begingroup$
            Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            11 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
            $endgroup$
            – Dale M
            9 mins ago















          $begingroup$
          Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
          $endgroup$
          – V2Blast
          11 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          Relevant (unofficial) Crawford tweet: "If two people are on different planes of existence, they are infinitely far away from each other. For example, if I'm on the Material Plane and you're on the Ethereal Plane, we're not within 30 feet of each other."
          $endgroup$
          – V2Blast
          11 mins ago












          $begingroup$
          @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
          $endgroup$
          – Dale M
          9 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          @V2Blast which makes no sense with a spell like Forcecage
          $endgroup$
          – Dale M
          9 mins ago










          ricitron is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.









          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          ricitron is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












          ricitron is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.











          ricitron is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.














          Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid


          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

          Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f145032%2fcan-you-cast-a-spell-on-someone-in-the-ethereal-plane-if-you-are-on-the-materia%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          Popular posts from this blog

          Can not update quote_id field of “quote_item” table magento 2Magento 2.1 - We can't remove the item. (Shopping Cart doesnt allow us to remove items before becomes empty)Add value for custom quote item attribute using REST apiREST API endpoint v1/carts/cartId/items always returns error messageCorrect way to save entries to databaseHow to remove all associated quote objects of a customer completelyMagento 2 - Save value from custom input field to quote_itemGet quote_item data using quote id and product id filter in Magento 2How to set additional data to quote_item table from controller in Magento 2?What is the purpose of additional_data column in quote_item table in magento2Set Custom Price to Quote item magento2 from controller

          How to solve knockout JS error in Magento 2 Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern) Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?(Magento2) knockout.js:3012 Uncaught ReferenceError: Unable to process bindingUnable to process binding Knockout.js magento 2Cannot read property `scopeLabel` of undefined on Product Detail PageCan't get Customer Data on frontend in Magento 2Magento2 Order Summary - unable to process bindingKO templates are not loading in Magento 2.1 applicationgetting knockout js error magento 2Product grid not load -— Unable to process binding Knockout.js magento 2Product form not loaded in magento2Uncaught ReferenceError: Unable to process binding “if: function()return (isShowLegend()) ” magento 2

          Nissan Patrol Зміст Перше покоління — 4W60 (1951-1960) | Друге покоління — 60 series (1960-1980) | Третє покоління (1980–2002) | Четверте покоління — Y60 (1987–1998) | П'яте покоління — Y61 (1997–2013) | Шосте покоління — Y62 (2010- ) | Посилання | Зноски | Навігаційне менюОфіційний український сайтТест-драйв Nissan Patrol 2010 7-го поколінняNissan PatrolКак мы тестировали Nissan Patrol 2016рвиправивши або дописавши її