Why are there 40 737 Max planes in flight when they have been grounded as not airworthy?Why Boeing 737 main landing gear wells have no doors?Why are there vortex generators under the Boeing 737's cockpit windows?Why are 737 fuselages built in Kansas?Why are there some airports not charted as service-available when FBO provides fuel?Why did this 737 not take off on first attempt?Where are the grounded 737 Max planes being kept?Why is Boeing being blamed for the recent 737 Max crashes?Why is Germany not able to read data from the Boeing 737 MAX black boxes?Why are there only two 'angle of attack sensors' in the 737 Max series?Is there less vertical space for an engine under the wing of a 737 Max than for an A320neo?
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Why are there 40 737 Max planes in flight when they have been grounded as not airworthy?
Why Boeing 737 main landing gear wells have no doors?Why are there vortex generators under the Boeing 737's cockpit windows?Why are 737 fuselages built in Kansas?Why are there some airports not charted as service-available when FBO provides fuel?Why did this 737 not take off on first attempt?Where are the grounded 737 Max planes being kept?Why is Boeing being blamed for the recent 737 Max crashes?Why is Germany not able to read data from the Boeing 737 MAX black boxes?Why are there only two 'angle of attack sensors' in the 737 Max series?Is there less vertical space for an engine under the wing of a 737 Max than for an A320neo?
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Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
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Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 1 hour ago
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The flightaware data is wrong.
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– Ben
31 mins ago
1
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@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
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– DavidPostill
30 mins ago
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@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
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– DavidPostill
28 mins ago
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I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
26 mins ago
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TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
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– Ben
23 mins ago
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$begingroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
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Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
faa-regulations boeing-737
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The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
26 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
23 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
26 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
23 mins ago
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
26 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
26 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
23 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
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– Ben
23 mins ago
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Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
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One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
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They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
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$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
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One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
$endgroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9151733
3,9151733
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
51 mins ago
add a comment |
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The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
26 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
23 mins ago