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What does Sonny Burch mean by, “S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA don't even exist anymore”?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)
Favourite questions and answers from the 1st quarter of 2019What does the “Walking Distance” phrase mean?What does Mycroft mean when he says “we don't want a repeat of 1972?”What does “Gollum” mean?What does “Witnessed and served” mean?Why does Westley say Rodents of Unusual Size don't exist?S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA in MCUWhat does “deleted” mean here?Who are the people in the Pit and why don't Bane, Talia and even Batman help them escape?What does 653 mean?What does security detail mean?










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In Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018), Sonny Burch says these words to Hope, who is expecting the component from him:




Sonny Burch: My business landscape has been shifting, Hope. Hell,
S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA don't even exist anymore... but now, Hank
Pym...Hank Pym is a real opportunity.




We see SHIELD in many Marvel movies. Why did he say like that?










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    In Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018), Sonny Burch says these words to Hope, who is expecting the component from him:




    Sonny Burch: My business landscape has been shifting, Hope. Hell,
    S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA don't even exist anymore... but now, Hank
    Pym...Hank Pym is a real opportunity.




    We see SHIELD in many Marvel movies. Why did he say like that?










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      In Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018), Sonny Burch says these words to Hope, who is expecting the component from him:




      Sonny Burch: My business landscape has been shifting, Hope. Hell,
      S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA don't even exist anymore... but now, Hank
      Pym...Hank Pym is a real opportunity.




      We see SHIELD in many Marvel movies. Why did he say like that?










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      In Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018), Sonny Burch says these words to Hope, who is expecting the component from him:




      Sonny Burch: My business landscape has been shifting, Hope. Hell,
      S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA don't even exist anymore... but now, Hank
      Pym...Hank Pym is a real opportunity.




      We see SHIELD in many Marvel movies. Why did he say like that?







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          He says it because it's pretty much true at that point in the timeline, in that they are shadows of their former selves, nowhere near the size and scope they both once held.



          S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much in disarray after the events of The Winter Soldier, in which we learn Hydra agents were able to infiltrate the agency in an effort to use their resources to finally push humanity into giving up their freedom, which Hydra learned years ago they couldn't force. While the mid-credits scene seems to show Hydra still exists, they're seemingly operating on a much smaller and possibly more focused basis.



          As such, saying they don't exist anymore could be taken to mean they don't exist at a level that they matter or are viable options to work with anymore. Burch is a big arms dealer, so if they're not able to come through financially the way the once did, and thus in his mind they simply don't exist and aren't worth bothering with.






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            He says it because it's pretty much true at that point in the timeline, in that they are shadows of their former selves, nowhere near the size and scope they both once held.



            S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much in disarray after the events of The Winter Soldier, in which we learn Hydra agents were able to infiltrate the agency in an effort to use their resources to finally push humanity into giving up their freedom, which Hydra learned years ago they couldn't force. While the mid-credits scene seems to show Hydra still exists, they're seemingly operating on a much smaller and possibly more focused basis.



            As such, saying they don't exist anymore could be taken to mean they don't exist at a level that they matter or are viable options to work with anymore. Burch is a big arms dealer, so if they're not able to come through financially the way the once did, and thus in his mind they simply don't exist and aren't worth bothering with.






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              He says it because it's pretty much true at that point in the timeline, in that they are shadows of their former selves, nowhere near the size and scope they both once held.



              S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much in disarray after the events of The Winter Soldier, in which we learn Hydra agents were able to infiltrate the agency in an effort to use their resources to finally push humanity into giving up their freedom, which Hydra learned years ago they couldn't force. While the mid-credits scene seems to show Hydra still exists, they're seemingly operating on a much smaller and possibly more focused basis.



              As such, saying they don't exist anymore could be taken to mean they don't exist at a level that they matter or are viable options to work with anymore. Burch is a big arms dealer, so if they're not able to come through financially the way the once did, and thus in his mind they simply don't exist and aren't worth bothering with.






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                He says it because it's pretty much true at that point in the timeline, in that they are shadows of their former selves, nowhere near the size and scope they both once held.



                S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much in disarray after the events of The Winter Soldier, in which we learn Hydra agents were able to infiltrate the agency in an effort to use their resources to finally push humanity into giving up their freedom, which Hydra learned years ago they couldn't force. While the mid-credits scene seems to show Hydra still exists, they're seemingly operating on a much smaller and possibly more focused basis.



                As such, saying they don't exist anymore could be taken to mean they don't exist at a level that they matter or are viable options to work with anymore. Burch is a big arms dealer, so if they're not able to come through financially the way the once did, and thus in his mind they simply don't exist and aren't worth bothering with.






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                He says it because it's pretty much true at that point in the timeline, in that they are shadows of their former selves, nowhere near the size and scope they both once held.



                S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty much in disarray after the events of The Winter Soldier, in which we learn Hydra agents were able to infiltrate the agency in an effort to use their resources to finally push humanity into giving up their freedom, which Hydra learned years ago they couldn't force. While the mid-credits scene seems to show Hydra still exists, they're seemingly operating on a much smaller and possibly more focused basis.



                As such, saying they don't exist anymore could be taken to mean they don't exist at a level that they matter or are viable options to work with anymore. Burch is a big arms dealer, so if they're not able to come through financially the way the once did, and thus in his mind they simply don't exist and aren't worth bothering with.







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