Example of a relative pronounMeine Kinder haben (considering sie as pronoun)/ habt(considering ihr as pronoun) hungrigDifference Between “Sich” and “Man” in Example ProvidedDifference between “an” and “auf” in an example

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Example of a relative pronoun


Meine Kinder haben (considering sie as pronoun)/ habt(considering ihr as pronoun) hungrigDifference Between “Sich” and “Man” in Example ProvidedDifference between “an” and “auf” in an example













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The University of Michigan gives this sentence on their page about relative pronouns:



"Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meinen kleinen Hund, der mich immer wütend macht."



The page said the "der" referred back to "meinem kleinen Hund" but since "Jack Nicholson" is in the nominative position of this sentence ("meinen kleinen Hund" is in the accusative), why wouldn't the "der" refer back to Nicholson?



https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/relative/#WerWoWas










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  • Semantisch ist das sehr merkwürdig. Wenn Dich der Hund wütend macht - wieso trittst Du ihn nicht selbst? Wieso hast Du überhaupt einen Hund, wenn er Dich wütend macht? Zum Glück hast Du die Quelle verlinkt, sonst hätte ich gedacht, dass es ein Übertragungsfehler ist oder ein miserables Lehrbuch (hatten wir auch schon).

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The University of Michigan gives this sentence on their page about relative pronouns:



"Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meinen kleinen Hund, der mich immer wütend macht."



The page said the "der" referred back to "meinem kleinen Hund" but since "Jack Nicholson" is in the nominative position of this sentence ("meinen kleinen Hund" is in the accusative), why wouldn't the "der" refer back to Nicholson?



https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/relative/#WerWoWas










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  • Semantisch ist das sehr merkwürdig. Wenn Dich der Hund wütend macht - wieso trittst Du ihn nicht selbst? Wieso hast Du überhaupt einen Hund, wenn er Dich wütend macht? Zum Glück hast Du die Quelle verlinkt, sonst hätte ich gedacht, dass es ein Übertragungsfehler ist oder ein miserables Lehrbuch (hatten wir auch schon).

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The University of Michigan gives this sentence on their page about relative pronouns:



"Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meinen kleinen Hund, der mich immer wütend macht."



The page said the "der" referred back to "meinem kleinen Hund" but since "Jack Nicholson" is in the nominative position of this sentence ("meinen kleinen Hund" is in the accusative), why wouldn't the "der" refer back to Nicholson?



https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/relative/#WerWoWas










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The University of Michigan gives this sentence on their page about relative pronouns:



"Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meinen kleinen Hund, der mich immer wütend macht."



The page said the "der" referred back to "meinem kleinen Hund" but since "Jack Nicholson" is in the nominative position of this sentence ("meinen kleinen Hund" is in the accusative), why wouldn't the "der" refer back to Nicholson?



https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/relative/#WerWoWas







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  • Semantisch ist das sehr merkwürdig. Wenn Dich der Hund wütend macht - wieso trittst Du ihn nicht selbst? Wieso hast Du überhaupt einen Hund, wenn er Dich wütend macht? Zum Glück hast Du die Quelle verlinkt, sonst hätte ich gedacht, dass es ein Übertragungsfehler ist oder ein miserables Lehrbuch (hatten wir auch schon).

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  • Semantisch ist das sehr merkwürdig. Wenn Dich der Hund wütend macht - wieso trittst Du ihn nicht selbst? Wieso hast Du überhaupt einen Hund, wenn er Dich wütend macht? Zum Glück hast Du die Quelle verlinkt, sonst hätte ich gedacht, dass es ein Übertragungsfehler ist oder ein miserables Lehrbuch (hatten wir auch schon).

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Semantisch ist das sehr merkwürdig. Wenn Dich der Hund wütend macht - wieso trittst Du ihn nicht selbst? Wieso hast Du überhaupt einen Hund, wenn er Dich wütend macht? Zum Glück hast Du die Quelle verlinkt, sonst hätte ich gedacht, dass es ein Übertragungsfehler ist oder ein miserables Lehrbuch (hatten wir auch schon).

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Semantisch ist das sehr merkwürdig. Wenn Dich der Hund wütend macht - wieso trittst Du ihn nicht selbst? Wieso hast Du überhaupt einen Hund, wenn er Dich wütend macht? Zum Glück hast Du die Quelle verlinkt, sonst hätte ich gedacht, dass es ein Übertragungsfehler ist oder ein miserables Lehrbuch (hatten wir auch schon).

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To quote a rule from the same page:




The relative clause always comes right after the noun it is describing.




(But note the exception for "dangling verbs".)



It is not enough for a relative pronoun to match the gender of its antecedent. The relative clause it introduces must also be positioned correctly. Now let's look at a slightly different sentence:




*Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meine kleine Katze, der mich immer wütend macht.




After replacing masculine Hund by feminine Katze, the only possible antecedent of the relative clause is Jack Nicholson. Yet because the relative clause is not adjacent to its antecedent, the sentence is ungrammatical.



Finally, note that the case of the relative pronoun is completely independent of the case of its antecedent. They occur in different sentences, after all!




Das ist der Laden [Nom.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], den (Acc.) ich liebe?



Das ist der Laden [Nom.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde?




Observe how the case of the relative pronoun is determined by the verb in the subordinate clause (lieben + accusative in the first four examples, schulden + dative in the others). I took these examples from the section How to choose the correct relative pronoun on this page with supplementary information.






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    To quote a rule from the same page:




    The relative clause always comes right after the noun it is describing.




    (But note the exception for "dangling verbs".)



    It is not enough for a relative pronoun to match the gender of its antecedent. The relative clause it introduces must also be positioned correctly. Now let's look at a slightly different sentence:




    *Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meine kleine Katze, der mich immer wütend macht.




    After replacing masculine Hund by feminine Katze, the only possible antecedent of the relative clause is Jack Nicholson. Yet because the relative clause is not adjacent to its antecedent, the sentence is ungrammatical.



    Finally, note that the case of the relative pronoun is completely independent of the case of its antecedent. They occur in different sentences, after all!




    Das ist der Laden [Nom.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

    Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

    Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

    Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], den (Acc.) ich liebe?



    Das ist der Laden [Nom.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

    Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

    Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

    Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde?




    Observe how the case of the relative pronoun is determined by the verb in the subordinate clause (lieben + accusative in the first four examples, schulden + dative in the others). I took these examples from the section How to choose the correct relative pronoun on this page with supplementary information.






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      To quote a rule from the same page:




      The relative clause always comes right after the noun it is describing.




      (But note the exception for "dangling verbs".)



      It is not enough for a relative pronoun to match the gender of its antecedent. The relative clause it introduces must also be positioned correctly. Now let's look at a slightly different sentence:




      *Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meine kleine Katze, der mich immer wütend macht.




      After replacing masculine Hund by feminine Katze, the only possible antecedent of the relative clause is Jack Nicholson. Yet because the relative clause is not adjacent to its antecedent, the sentence is ungrammatical.



      Finally, note that the case of the relative pronoun is completely independent of the case of its antecedent. They occur in different sentences, after all!




      Das ist der Laden [Nom.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

      Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

      Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

      Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], den (Acc.) ich liebe?



      Das ist der Laden [Nom.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

      Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

      Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

      Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde?




      Observe how the case of the relative pronoun is determined by the verb in the subordinate clause (lieben + accusative in the first four examples, schulden + dative in the others). I took these examples from the section How to choose the correct relative pronoun on this page with supplementary information.






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        To quote a rule from the same page:




        The relative clause always comes right after the noun it is describing.




        (But note the exception for "dangling verbs".)



        It is not enough for a relative pronoun to match the gender of its antecedent. The relative clause it introduces must also be positioned correctly. Now let's look at a slightly different sentence:




        *Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meine kleine Katze, der mich immer wütend macht.




        After replacing masculine Hund by feminine Katze, the only possible antecedent of the relative clause is Jack Nicholson. Yet because the relative clause is not adjacent to its antecedent, the sentence is ungrammatical.



        Finally, note that the case of the relative pronoun is completely independent of the case of its antecedent. They occur in different sentences, after all!




        Das ist der Laden [Nom.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

        Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

        Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

        Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], den (Acc.) ich liebe?



        Das ist der Laden [Nom.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

        Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

        Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

        Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde?




        Observe how the case of the relative pronoun is determined by the verb in the subordinate clause (lieben + accusative in the first four examples, schulden + dative in the others). I took these examples from the section How to choose the correct relative pronoun on this page with supplementary information.






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        To quote a rule from the same page:




        The relative clause always comes right after the noun it is describing.




        (But note the exception for "dangling verbs".)



        It is not enough for a relative pronoun to match the gender of its antecedent. The relative clause it introduces must also be positioned correctly. Now let's look at a slightly different sentence:




        *Jeden Morgen tritt Jack Nicholson meine kleine Katze, der mich immer wütend macht.




        After replacing masculine Hund by feminine Katze, the only possible antecedent of the relative clause is Jack Nicholson. Yet because the relative clause is not adjacent to its antecedent, the sentence is ungrammatical.



        Finally, note that the case of the relative pronoun is completely independent of the case of its antecedent. They occur in different sentences, after all!




        Das ist der Laden [Nom.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

        Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

        Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], den (Acc.) ich liebe.

        Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], den (Acc.) ich liebe?



        Das ist der Laden [Nom.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

        Wir gehen in den Laden [Acc.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

        Wir sind in dem Laden [Dat.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde.

        Wer ist der Besitzer des Ladens [Gen.], dem (Dat.) ich €20.000 schulde?




        Observe how the case of the relative pronoun is determined by the verb in the subordinate clause (lieben + accusative in the first four examples, schulden + dative in the others). I took these examples from the section How to choose the correct relative pronoun on this page with supplementary information.







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