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Non-Jewish family in an Orthodox Jewish Wedding



Parashat Metzora+Hagadol
Pesach/PassoverChildren of Converts and Specific halachosConverts, kibbud av v'eim, and non-Jewish holidaysDoes a halachically circumcised non-Jew need Hatafat Dam when converting?Do the parents of a convert merit in the afterlife for their child's decision?Mother was adopted into Jewish family and raised Jewish, and she raised me as a Jew… Will my children be Jewish?Does a Jewish-owned supermarket need to completely seal its chametz product aisles?If husband becomes Jewish during pregnancy of Jewish wife, is he considered the baby's father?Ger Tzedek/Tzadik earliest sources and definitionPurpose of “tana'im” todayCan one attend a wedding ceremony where one partner had a non-Orthodox conversion?










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In a case of a Ger/Convert, what role can non-Jewish parents play at the wedding ceremony?



Halachically can the parents accompany their child down the aisle? Could they stand under the Chuppa?



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    Is walking down an aisle or standing near something a Halakhically meaningful act? Who cares who walks wherever before a wedding? If you could give a reason Judaism might care about those things I might understand why there'd be discussion of a gentile's participation.

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  • The Rema in Yoreh Deah in שצא:ג. discusses the concept of leading the groom down the aisle.... וכן יוכל להכניס חתן כדרך ארצנו ששני אנשים מכניסין החתן תחת החופה

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In a case of a Ger/Convert, what role can non-Jewish parents play at the wedding ceremony?



Halachically can the parents accompany their child down the aisle? Could they stand under the Chuppa?



Any sources on the topic would be much appreciated










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    Is walking down an aisle or standing near something a Halakhically meaningful act? Who cares who walks wherever before a wedding? If you could give a reason Judaism might care about those things I might understand why there'd be discussion of a gentile's participation.

    – Double AA
    5 hours ago











  • The Rema in Yoreh Deah in שצא:ג. discusses the concept of leading the groom down the aisle.... וכן יוכל להכניס חתן כדרך ארצנו ששני אנשים מכניסין החתן תחת החופה

    – El Shteiger
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    @ElShteiger Always include relevant information in the post itself

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In a case of a Ger/Convert, what role can non-Jewish parents play at the wedding ceremony?



Halachically can the parents accompany their child down the aisle? Could they stand under the Chuppa?



Any sources on the topic would be much appreciated










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In a case of a Ger/Convert, what role can non-Jewish parents play at the wedding ceremony?



Halachically can the parents accompany their child down the aisle? Could they stand under the Chuppa?



Any sources on the topic would be much appreciated







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    Is walking down an aisle or standing near something a Halakhically meaningful act? Who cares who walks wherever before a wedding? If you could give a reason Judaism might care about those things I might understand why there'd be discussion of a gentile's participation.

    – Double AA
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  • The Rema in Yoreh Deah in שצא:ג. discusses the concept of leading the groom down the aisle.... וכן יוכל להכניס חתן כדרך ארצנו ששני אנשים מכניסין החתן תחת החופה

    – El Shteiger
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    @ElShteiger Always include relevant information in the post itself

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  • 2





    Is walking down an aisle or standing near something a Halakhically meaningful act? Who cares who walks wherever before a wedding? If you could give a reason Judaism might care about those things I might understand why there'd be discussion of a gentile's participation.

    – Double AA
    5 hours ago











  • The Rema in Yoreh Deah in שצא:ג. discusses the concept of leading the groom down the aisle.... וכן יוכל להכניס חתן כדרך ארצנו ששני אנשים מכניסין החתן תחת החופה

    – El Shteiger
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    @ElShteiger Always include relevant information in the post itself

    – DonielF
    3 hours ago







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Is walking down an aisle or standing near something a Halakhically meaningful act? Who cares who walks wherever before a wedding? If you could give a reason Judaism might care about those things I might understand why there'd be discussion of a gentile's participation.

– Double AA
5 hours ago





Is walking down an aisle or standing near something a Halakhically meaningful act? Who cares who walks wherever before a wedding? If you could give a reason Judaism might care about those things I might understand why there'd be discussion of a gentile's participation.

– Double AA
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The Rema in Yoreh Deah in שצא:ג. discusses the concept of leading the groom down the aisle.... וכן יוכל להכניס חתן כדרך ארצנו ששני אנשים מכניסין החתן תחת החופה

– El Shteiger
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The Rema in Yoreh Deah in שצא:ג. discusses the concept of leading the groom down the aisle.... וכן יוכל להכניס חתן כדרך ארצנו ששני אנשים מכניסין החתן תחת החופה

– El Shteiger
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@ElShteiger Always include relevant information in the post itself

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I was involved with someone who had the following situation (I don't know the sources involved in the decision, just the guidance that was given. HaRav Tzvi Berkowitz was the Rav being consulted):



The groom of the father was Jewish, but his mother was not, and the groom had converted. However, it was not publicly known that he had converted. The parents of the bride were divorced. Some consider it a bad siman for a divorced couple to walk the child to the chuppah, and therefore it was decided that the fathers would walk down the groom, and the mothers would walk down the bride. However, this left the bride being walked down to the aisle by a divorced woman and a non-Jew. Therefore, an older couple who were very close to the family of the bride walked a short distance behind the bride to escort her to the chuppah. The older couple veered off before the chuppah, and the groom and bride both had their parents with them under the chuppah.



I included all of the details so that I wouldn't be misrepresenting anything, but peeling away some of the complications, it does seem that a) if non-Jewish parents are walking a child down, it would be better to have another couple be co-escorts, which can be done by following behind, and b) a non-Jewish parent can stand under the chuppah with their child.






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    I was involved with someone who had the following situation (I don't know the sources involved in the decision, just the guidance that was given. HaRav Tzvi Berkowitz was the Rav being consulted):



    The groom of the father was Jewish, but his mother was not, and the groom had converted. However, it was not publicly known that he had converted. The parents of the bride were divorced. Some consider it a bad siman for a divorced couple to walk the child to the chuppah, and therefore it was decided that the fathers would walk down the groom, and the mothers would walk down the bride. However, this left the bride being walked down to the aisle by a divorced woman and a non-Jew. Therefore, an older couple who were very close to the family of the bride walked a short distance behind the bride to escort her to the chuppah. The older couple veered off before the chuppah, and the groom and bride both had their parents with them under the chuppah.



    I included all of the details so that I wouldn't be misrepresenting anything, but peeling away some of the complications, it does seem that a) if non-Jewish parents are walking a child down, it would be better to have another couple be co-escorts, which can be done by following behind, and b) a non-Jewish parent can stand under the chuppah with their child.






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      I was involved with someone who had the following situation (I don't know the sources involved in the decision, just the guidance that was given. HaRav Tzvi Berkowitz was the Rav being consulted):



      The groom of the father was Jewish, but his mother was not, and the groom had converted. However, it was not publicly known that he had converted. The parents of the bride were divorced. Some consider it a bad siman for a divorced couple to walk the child to the chuppah, and therefore it was decided that the fathers would walk down the groom, and the mothers would walk down the bride. However, this left the bride being walked down to the aisle by a divorced woman and a non-Jew. Therefore, an older couple who were very close to the family of the bride walked a short distance behind the bride to escort her to the chuppah. The older couple veered off before the chuppah, and the groom and bride both had their parents with them under the chuppah.



      I included all of the details so that I wouldn't be misrepresenting anything, but peeling away some of the complications, it does seem that a) if non-Jewish parents are walking a child down, it would be better to have another couple be co-escorts, which can be done by following behind, and b) a non-Jewish parent can stand under the chuppah with their child.






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        I was involved with someone who had the following situation (I don't know the sources involved in the decision, just the guidance that was given. HaRav Tzvi Berkowitz was the Rav being consulted):



        The groom of the father was Jewish, but his mother was not, and the groom had converted. However, it was not publicly known that he had converted. The parents of the bride were divorced. Some consider it a bad siman for a divorced couple to walk the child to the chuppah, and therefore it was decided that the fathers would walk down the groom, and the mothers would walk down the bride. However, this left the bride being walked down to the aisle by a divorced woman and a non-Jew. Therefore, an older couple who were very close to the family of the bride walked a short distance behind the bride to escort her to the chuppah. The older couple veered off before the chuppah, and the groom and bride both had their parents with them under the chuppah.



        I included all of the details so that I wouldn't be misrepresenting anything, but peeling away some of the complications, it does seem that a) if non-Jewish parents are walking a child down, it would be better to have another couple be co-escorts, which can be done by following behind, and b) a non-Jewish parent can stand under the chuppah with their child.






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        I was involved with someone who had the following situation (I don't know the sources involved in the decision, just the guidance that was given. HaRav Tzvi Berkowitz was the Rav being consulted):



        The groom of the father was Jewish, but his mother was not, and the groom had converted. However, it was not publicly known that he had converted. The parents of the bride were divorced. Some consider it a bad siman for a divorced couple to walk the child to the chuppah, and therefore it was decided that the fathers would walk down the groom, and the mothers would walk down the bride. However, this left the bride being walked down to the aisle by a divorced woman and a non-Jew. Therefore, an older couple who were very close to the family of the bride walked a short distance behind the bride to escort her to the chuppah. The older couple veered off before the chuppah, and the groom and bride both had their parents with them under the chuppah.



        I included all of the details so that I wouldn't be misrepresenting anything, but peeling away some of the complications, it does seem that a) if non-Jewish parents are walking a child down, it would be better to have another couple be co-escorts, which can be done by following behind, and b) a non-Jewish parent can stand under the chuppah with their child.







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