Continuity of Linear Operator Between Hilbert SpacesNorm of adjoint operator in Hilbert spaceSesquilinear forms on Hilbert spacesGradient of inner product in Hilbert spaceDissipativity for Hilbert spacesA self-adjoint operator on a Hilbert spaceComplementary slackness in Hilbert spacesProof that every bounded linear operator between hilbert spaces has an adjoint.Proof explanation related to the operator matricesShowing that $exists x in H : |A(x)| = |A|_mathcalL$ if $H$ is Hilbert and $A in mathcalL_c(X,Y)$.Why is this operator symmetric? A question concerning a paper from Brezis and Crandall
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Continuity of Linear Operator Between Hilbert Spaces
Norm of adjoint operator in Hilbert spaceSesquilinear forms on Hilbert spacesGradient of inner product in Hilbert spaceDissipativity for Hilbert spacesA self-adjoint operator on a Hilbert spaceComplementary slackness in Hilbert spacesProof that every bounded linear operator between hilbert spaces has an adjoint.Proof explanation related to the operator matricesShowing that $exists x in H : |A(x)| = |A|_mathcalL$ if $H$ is Hilbert and $A in mathcalL_c(X,Y)$.Why is this operator symmetric? A question concerning a paper from Brezis and Crandall
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Note: Please do not give a solution; I am curious to understand why my solution is incorrect, and would prefer guidance to help me complete the question myself. Thank you.
Let $mathcalH$ be a Hilbert space, and suppose that $TintextHom(mathcalH,mathcalH)$. Suppose that there exists an operator $tildeT:mathcalHrightarrowmathcalH$ such that,
beginalign
langle Tx,yrangle =langle x,tildeTyrangle,
endalign
$forall x,yinmathcalH$. Show that $T$ is continuous.
My current solution is as follows:
Assume for all $delta>0$ there exists $n>NinmathbbN$ such that,
beginalign
|x_n-x|<delta.
endalign
Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle &= |Tx_n-Tx|^2\
&leq|Tx_n-Tx|=|T(x_n-x)|\
&leq|T||x_n-x|rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
What am I doing wrong? I notice I do not use the existence of $tildeT$.
Second Attempt:
Assume $langle x_n,xrangle rightarrow langle x,xrangle$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then, given $langle Tx,yrangle = langle x,tildeTyrangle$,
beginalign
langle Tx_n,yrangle &= langle x_n,tildeTyranglerightarrow_nrightarrowinftylangle x,tildeTyrangle=langle Tx,yrangle.
endalign
Therefore, $Tx_nrightarrow Tx$ as $nrightarrowinfty$.
Third Attempt:
Assume $|x_n-x|rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle=langle x_n-x,x_n-xrangle=|x_n-x|^2.
endalign
By assumption $|x_n-x|^2rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Hence,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle = |Tx_n-Tx|^2rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
Therefore, $T$ is continuous.
functional-analysis continuity hilbert-spaces
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Note: Please do not give a solution; I am curious to understand why my solution is incorrect, and would prefer guidance to help me complete the question myself. Thank you.
Let $mathcalH$ be a Hilbert space, and suppose that $TintextHom(mathcalH,mathcalH)$. Suppose that there exists an operator $tildeT:mathcalHrightarrowmathcalH$ such that,
beginalign
langle Tx,yrangle =langle x,tildeTyrangle,
endalign
$forall x,yinmathcalH$. Show that $T$ is continuous.
My current solution is as follows:
Assume for all $delta>0$ there exists $n>NinmathbbN$ such that,
beginalign
|x_n-x|<delta.
endalign
Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle &= |Tx_n-Tx|^2\
&leq|Tx_n-Tx|=|T(x_n-x)|\
&leq|T||x_n-x|rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
What am I doing wrong? I notice I do not use the existence of $tildeT$.
Second Attempt:
Assume $langle x_n,xrangle rightarrow langle x,xrangle$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then, given $langle Tx,yrangle = langle x,tildeTyrangle$,
beginalign
langle Tx_n,yrangle &= langle x_n,tildeTyranglerightarrow_nrightarrowinftylangle x,tildeTyrangle=langle Tx,yrangle.
endalign
Therefore, $Tx_nrightarrow Tx$ as $nrightarrowinfty$.
Third Attempt:
Assume $|x_n-x|rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle=langle x_n-x,x_n-xrangle=|x_n-x|^2.
endalign
By assumption $|x_n-x|^2rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Hence,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle = |Tx_n-Tx|^2rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
Therefore, $T$ is continuous.
functional-analysis continuity hilbert-spaces
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The last inequality basically implies that the norm of T is bounded or that it is continuous
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– Andres Mejia
4 hours ago
1
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Comment on the second attempt: you showed that $Tx_n to Tx$ weakly, not in norm. Off-topic comment: I admire your tenacity. Keep trying!
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– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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Thank you. Do you have a hint?
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– Jack
3 hours ago
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Third attempt made. Although not sure if this holds either.
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– Jack
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Note: Please do not give a solution; I am curious to understand why my solution is incorrect, and would prefer guidance to help me complete the question myself. Thank you.
Let $mathcalH$ be a Hilbert space, and suppose that $TintextHom(mathcalH,mathcalH)$. Suppose that there exists an operator $tildeT:mathcalHrightarrowmathcalH$ such that,
beginalign
langle Tx,yrangle =langle x,tildeTyrangle,
endalign
$forall x,yinmathcalH$. Show that $T$ is continuous.
My current solution is as follows:
Assume for all $delta>0$ there exists $n>NinmathbbN$ such that,
beginalign
|x_n-x|<delta.
endalign
Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle &= |Tx_n-Tx|^2\
&leq|Tx_n-Tx|=|T(x_n-x)|\
&leq|T||x_n-x|rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
What am I doing wrong? I notice I do not use the existence of $tildeT$.
Second Attempt:
Assume $langle x_n,xrangle rightarrow langle x,xrangle$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then, given $langle Tx,yrangle = langle x,tildeTyrangle$,
beginalign
langle Tx_n,yrangle &= langle x_n,tildeTyranglerightarrow_nrightarrowinftylangle x,tildeTyrangle=langle Tx,yrangle.
endalign
Therefore, $Tx_nrightarrow Tx$ as $nrightarrowinfty$.
Third Attempt:
Assume $|x_n-x|rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle=langle x_n-x,x_n-xrangle=|x_n-x|^2.
endalign
By assumption $|x_n-x|^2rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Hence,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle = |Tx_n-Tx|^2rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
Therefore, $T$ is continuous.
functional-analysis continuity hilbert-spaces
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Note: Please do not give a solution; I am curious to understand why my solution is incorrect, and would prefer guidance to help me complete the question myself. Thank you.
Let $mathcalH$ be a Hilbert space, and suppose that $TintextHom(mathcalH,mathcalH)$. Suppose that there exists an operator $tildeT:mathcalHrightarrowmathcalH$ such that,
beginalign
langle Tx,yrangle =langle x,tildeTyrangle,
endalign
$forall x,yinmathcalH$. Show that $T$ is continuous.
My current solution is as follows:
Assume for all $delta>0$ there exists $n>NinmathbbN$ such that,
beginalign
|x_n-x|<delta.
endalign
Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle &= |Tx_n-Tx|^2\
&leq|Tx_n-Tx|=|T(x_n-x)|\
&leq|T||x_n-x|rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
What am I doing wrong? I notice I do not use the existence of $tildeT$.
Second Attempt:
Assume $langle x_n,xrangle rightarrow langle x,xrangle$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then, given $langle Tx,yrangle = langle x,tildeTyrangle$,
beginalign
langle Tx_n,yrangle &= langle x_n,tildeTyranglerightarrow_nrightarrowinftylangle x,tildeTyrangle=langle Tx,yrangle.
endalign
Therefore, $Tx_nrightarrow Tx$ as $nrightarrowinfty$.
Third Attempt:
Assume $|x_n-x|rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Then,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle=langle x_n-x,x_n-xrangle=|x_n-x|^2.
endalign
By assumption $|x_n-x|^2rightarrow 0$ as $nrightarrowinfty$. Hence,
beginalign
langle Tx_n-Tx,Tx_n-Txrangle = |Tx_n-Tx|^2rightarrow 0text as nrightarrowinfty.
endalign
Therefore, $T$ is continuous.
functional-analysis continuity hilbert-spaces
functional-analysis continuity hilbert-spaces
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The last inequality basically implies that the norm of T is bounded or that it is continuous
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– Andres Mejia
4 hours ago
1
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Comment on the second attempt: you showed that $Tx_n to Tx$ weakly, not in norm. Off-topic comment: I admire your tenacity. Keep trying!
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– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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Thank you. Do you have a hint?
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– Jack
3 hours ago
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Third attempt made. Although not sure if this holds either.
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– Jack
3 hours ago
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
The last inequality basically implies that the norm of T is bounded or that it is continuous
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– Andres Mejia
4 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Comment on the second attempt: you showed that $Tx_n to Tx$ weakly, not in norm. Off-topic comment: I admire your tenacity. Keep trying!
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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Thank you. Do you have a hint?
$endgroup$
– Jack
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Third attempt made. Although not sure if this holds either.
$endgroup$
– Jack
3 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
The last inequality basically implies that the norm of T is bounded or that it is continuous
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– Andres Mejia
4 hours ago
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The last inequality basically implies that the norm of T is bounded or that it is continuous
$endgroup$
– Andres Mejia
4 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Comment on the second attempt: you showed that $Tx_n to Tx$ weakly, not in norm. Off-topic comment: I admire your tenacity. Keep trying!
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
Comment on the second attempt: you showed that $Tx_n to Tx$ weakly, not in norm. Off-topic comment: I admire your tenacity. Keep trying!
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
Thank you. Do you have a hint?
$endgroup$
– Jack
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Thank you. Do you have a hint?
$endgroup$
– Jack
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Third attempt made. Although not sure if this holds either.
$endgroup$
– Jack
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Third attempt made. Although not sure if this holds either.
$endgroup$
– Jack
3 hours ago
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The problem is that we can't assume that $T$ has a finite norm. Before we add that condition about having an adjoint map $tildeT$, we're simply assuming that $T$ is a linear map.
In fact, a linear map between normed vector spaces is continuous if and only if it has a finite operator norm. You assumed the statement we were trying to prove.
Second attempt: The assumption here should have been that $x_nto x$, as in the others. Then, yes, $langle Tx_n,yrangle to langle Tx,yrangle$ for each $y$. This is real progress. But, as stated in the comments, it's weak convergence rather than convergence in norm. Not quite there.
Third attempt: No, $langle Tu,Turangle$ is not equal to $langle u,urangle$ - it's equal to $langle u,tildeTTurangle$, and you don't know what $tildeTT$ does. This is not helpful.
All, right, lets go back to the attempt that made some progress. Are you familiar with the uniform boundedness principle? One consequence of that theorem is that any sequence of points in a Hilbert space that converges weakly is bounded. Can we use this to ensure that $T$ is a bounded operator?
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So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
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– Jack
4 hours ago
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@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
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– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
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– Jack
4 hours ago
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The problem is that we can't assume that $T$ has a finite norm. Before we add that condition about having an adjoint map $tildeT$, we're simply assuming that $T$ is a linear map.
In fact, a linear map between normed vector spaces is continuous if and only if it has a finite operator norm. You assumed the statement we were trying to prove.
Second attempt: The assumption here should have been that $x_nto x$, as in the others. Then, yes, $langle Tx_n,yrangle to langle Tx,yrangle$ for each $y$. This is real progress. But, as stated in the comments, it's weak convergence rather than convergence in norm. Not quite there.
Third attempt: No, $langle Tu,Turangle$ is not equal to $langle u,urangle$ - it's equal to $langle u,tildeTTurangle$, and you don't know what $tildeTT$ does. This is not helpful.
All, right, lets go back to the attempt that made some progress. Are you familiar with the uniform boundedness principle? One consequence of that theorem is that any sequence of points in a Hilbert space that converges weakly is bounded. Can we use this to ensure that $T$ is a bounded operator?
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So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
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@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
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– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The problem is that we can't assume that $T$ has a finite norm. Before we add that condition about having an adjoint map $tildeT$, we're simply assuming that $T$ is a linear map.
In fact, a linear map between normed vector spaces is continuous if and only if it has a finite operator norm. You assumed the statement we were trying to prove.
Second attempt: The assumption here should have been that $x_nto x$, as in the others. Then, yes, $langle Tx_n,yrangle to langle Tx,yrangle$ for each $y$. This is real progress. But, as stated in the comments, it's weak convergence rather than convergence in norm. Not quite there.
Third attempt: No, $langle Tu,Turangle$ is not equal to $langle u,urangle$ - it's equal to $langle u,tildeTTurangle$, and you don't know what $tildeTT$ does. This is not helpful.
All, right, lets go back to the attempt that made some progress. Are you familiar with the uniform boundedness principle? One consequence of that theorem is that any sequence of points in a Hilbert space that converges weakly is bounded. Can we use this to ensure that $T$ is a bounded operator?
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The problem is that we can't assume that $T$ has a finite norm. Before we add that condition about having an adjoint map $tildeT$, we're simply assuming that $T$ is a linear map.
In fact, a linear map between normed vector spaces is continuous if and only if it has a finite operator norm. You assumed the statement we were trying to prove.
Second attempt: The assumption here should have been that $x_nto x$, as in the others. Then, yes, $langle Tx_n,yrangle to langle Tx,yrangle$ for each $y$. This is real progress. But, as stated in the comments, it's weak convergence rather than convergence in norm. Not quite there.
Third attempt: No, $langle Tu,Turangle$ is not equal to $langle u,urangle$ - it's equal to $langle u,tildeTTurangle$, and you don't know what $tildeTT$ does. This is not helpful.
All, right, lets go back to the attempt that made some progress. Are you familiar with the uniform boundedness principle? One consequence of that theorem is that any sequence of points in a Hilbert space that converges weakly is bounded. Can we use this to ensure that $T$ is a bounded operator?
$endgroup$
The problem is that we can't assume that $T$ has a finite norm. Before we add that condition about having an adjoint map $tildeT$, we're simply assuming that $T$ is a linear map.
In fact, a linear map between normed vector spaces is continuous if and only if it has a finite operator norm. You assumed the statement we were trying to prove.
Second attempt: The assumption here should have been that $x_nto x$, as in the others. Then, yes, $langle Tx_n,yrangle to langle Tx,yrangle$ for each $y$. This is real progress. But, as stated in the comments, it's weak convergence rather than convergence in norm. Not quite there.
Third attempt: No, $langle Tu,Turangle$ is not equal to $langle u,urangle$ - it's equal to $langle u,tildeTTurangle$, and you don't know what $tildeTT$ does. This is not helpful.
All, right, lets go back to the attempt that made some progress. Are you familiar with the uniform boundedness principle? One consequence of that theorem is that any sequence of points in a Hilbert space that converges weakly is bounded. Can we use this to ensure that $T$ is a bounded operator?
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So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
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– Jack
4 hours ago
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@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
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– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
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– Jack
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
So is the idea for me to use $tildeT$ to cancel out the operator norm in my final inequality?
$endgroup$
– Jack
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Jack no, that won't rescue the proof.
$endgroup$
– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
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– Jack
4 hours ago
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New proof attempt. Please check if you can.
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4 hours ago
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The last inequality basically implies that the norm of T is bounded or that it is continuous
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– Andres Mejia
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Comment on the second attempt: you showed that $Tx_n to Tx$ weakly, not in norm. Off-topic comment: I admire your tenacity. Keep trying!
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– Umberto P.
4 hours ago
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Thank you. Do you have a hint?
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– Jack
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Third attempt made. Although not sure if this holds either.
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