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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
history
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
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By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
7 hours ago
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
6 hours ago
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
2 hours ago
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
59 mins ago
add a comment |
Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
history
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
37518
Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
history
history
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
37518
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
37518
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
37518
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
37518
asked 10 hours ago
RuminatorRuminator
37518
37518
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
7 hours ago
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
6 hours ago
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
2 hours ago
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
59 mins ago
add a comment |
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
7 hours ago
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
6 hours ago
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
2 hours ago
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
59 mins ago
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
7 hours ago
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
7 hours ago
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
6 hours ago
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
6 hours ago
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
2 hours ago
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
59 mins ago
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
59 mins ago
add a comment |
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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered 9 hours ago
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To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
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1 Answer
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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
answered 9 hours ago
DonielFDonielF
17k12689
17k12689
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
1
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
7 hours ago
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
6 hours ago
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
2 hours ago
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
59 mins ago