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Is the next prime number always the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers previously divisible by primes?


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Is the next prime number always the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers previously divisible by primes?



E.g. take prime number $7$, squared is $49$. The next numbers not previously divisible by $2,3,5$ are $53,59,61,67,71,73,77$ -i.e. the next number divisible by $7$ is $11 times 7$ - the next prime number times the previous one.



Similarly, take $11$: squared $121$. the next numbers not divisible by $2,3,5,7$ are: $127,131,137,139,143$. i.e. $143$ is the next number divisible by $11$, which is $13 times 11$, $13$ being the next prime in the sequence.



Is this always the case? Can it be that the next prime number in sequence is not neatly divisible by the previous one or has one in between?



Appreciate this may be a silly question, i'm not a mathematician.










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    Your description is confusing--for instance, if the current prime number is $7$, then "the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers divisible by primes we already have" would be $77$, which is not the next prime (the next prime is $11$).
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    Welcome to Math Stack Exchange. Are you saying that, if $p_n$ is the $n^th$ prime number, then the next composite number after $p_n^2$ not divisible by $p_1,p_2,...,p_n-1$ is $p_ntimes p_n+1$?
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    ... i think so? i was just playing with prime numbers.. and noticed that after each square of the prime number, the next prime number was the next multiple that wasn't divisible by a smaller prime.. so 5x5 = 25, but the numbers not divisible by 2,3 above that are 29,31,35. 35 is 7x5 - i.e. the current prime times the next prime. i checked it held true for 7 and 11 but wondered if it was universal
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Is the next prime number always the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers previously divisible by primes?



E.g. take prime number $7$, squared is $49$. The next numbers not previously divisible by $2,3,5$ are $53,59,61,67,71,73,77$ -i.e. the next number divisible by $7$ is $11 times 7$ - the next prime number times the previous one.



Similarly, take $11$: squared $121$. the next numbers not divisible by $2,3,5,7$ are: $127,131,137,139,143$. i.e. $143$ is the next number divisible by $11$, which is $13 times 11$, $13$ being the next prime in the sequence.



Is this always the case? Can it be that the next prime number in sequence is not neatly divisible by the previous one or has one in between?



Appreciate this may be a silly question, i'm not a mathematician.










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    Your description is confusing--for instance, if the current prime number is $7$, then "the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers divisible by primes we already have" would be $77$, which is not the next prime (the next prime is $11$).
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    sorry, i mean that 77 is the next prime, times the previous prime. ill edit to clarify
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    Welcome to Math Stack Exchange. Are you saying that, if $p_n$ is the $n^th$ prime number, then the next composite number after $p_n^2$ not divisible by $p_1,p_2,...,p_n-1$ is $p_ntimes p_n+1$?
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    ... i think so? i was just playing with prime numbers.. and noticed that after each square of the prime number, the next prime number was the next multiple that wasn't divisible by a smaller prime.. so 5x5 = 25, but the numbers not divisible by 2,3 above that are 29,31,35. 35 is 7x5 - i.e. the current prime times the next prime. i checked it held true for 7 and 11 but wondered if it was universal
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Is the next prime number always the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers previously divisible by primes?



E.g. take prime number $7$, squared is $49$. The next numbers not previously divisible by $2,3,5$ are $53,59,61,67,71,73,77$ -i.e. the next number divisible by $7$ is $11 times 7$ - the next prime number times the previous one.



Similarly, take $11$: squared $121$. the next numbers not divisible by $2,3,5,7$ are: $127,131,137,139,143$. i.e. $143$ is the next number divisible by $11$, which is $13 times 11$, $13$ being the next prime in the sequence.



Is this always the case? Can it be that the next prime number in sequence is not neatly divisible by the previous one or has one in between?



Appreciate this may be a silly question, i'm not a mathematician.










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Is the next prime number always the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers previously divisible by primes?



E.g. take prime number $7$, squared is $49$. The next numbers not previously divisible by $2,3,5$ are $53,59,61,67,71,73,77$ -i.e. the next number divisible by $7$ is $11 times 7$ - the next prime number times the previous one.



Similarly, take $11$: squared $121$. the next numbers not divisible by $2,3,5,7$ are: $127,131,137,139,143$. i.e. $143$ is the next number divisible by $11$, which is $13 times 11$, $13$ being the next prime in the sequence.



Is this always the case? Can it be that the next prime number in sequence is not neatly divisible by the previous one or has one in between?



Appreciate this may be a silly question, i'm not a mathematician.







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    Your description is confusing--for instance, if the current prime number is $7$, then "the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers divisible by primes we already have" would be $77$, which is not the next prime (the next prime is $11$).
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    sorry, i mean that 77 is the next prime, times the previous prime. ill edit to clarify
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    Welcome to Math Stack Exchange. Are you saying that, if $p_n$ is the $n^th$ prime number, then the next composite number after $p_n^2$ not divisible by $p_1,p_2,...,p_n-1$ is $p_ntimes p_n+1$?
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    ... i think so? i was just playing with prime numbers.. and noticed that after each square of the prime number, the next prime number was the next multiple that wasn't divisible by a smaller prime.. so 5x5 = 25, but the numbers not divisible by 2,3 above that are 29,31,35. 35 is 7x5 - i.e. the current prime times the next prime. i checked it held true for 7 and 11 but wondered if it was universal
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    Your description is confusing--for instance, if the current prime number is $7$, then "the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers divisible by primes we already have" would be $77$, which is not the next prime (the next prime is $11$).
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    See Sieve of Eratosthenes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Eratosthenes
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    sorry, i mean that 77 is the next prime, times the previous prime. ill edit to clarify
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    Welcome to Math Stack Exchange. Are you saying that, if $p_n$ is the $n^th$ prime number, then the next composite number after $p_n^2$ not divisible by $p_1,p_2,...,p_n-1$ is $p_ntimes p_n+1$?
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    ... i think so? i was just playing with prime numbers.. and noticed that after each square of the prime number, the next prime number was the next multiple that wasn't divisible by a smaller prime.. so 5x5 = 25, but the numbers not divisible by 2,3 above that are 29,31,35. 35 is 7x5 - i.e. the current prime times the next prime. i checked it held true for 7 and 11 but wondered if it was universal
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Your description is confusing--for instance, if the current prime number is $7$, then "the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers divisible by primes we already have" would be $77$, which is not the next prime (the next prime is $11$).
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Your description is confusing--for instance, if the current prime number is $7$, then "the next number divisible by the current prime number, except for any numbers divisible by primes we already have" would be $77$, which is not the next prime (the next prime is $11$).
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Welcome to Math Stack Exchange. Are you saying that, if $p_n$ is the $n^th$ prime number, then the next composite number after $p_n^2$ not divisible by $p_1,p_2,...,p_n-1$ is $p_ntimes p_n+1$?
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Welcome to Math Stack Exchange. Are you saying that, if $p_n$ is the $n^th$ prime number, then the next composite number after $p_n^2$ not divisible by $p_1,p_2,...,p_n-1$ is $p_ntimes p_n+1$?
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... i think so? i was just playing with prime numbers.. and noticed that after each square of the prime number, the next prime number was the next multiple that wasn't divisible by a smaller prime.. so 5x5 = 25, but the numbers not divisible by 2,3 above that are 29,31,35. 35 is 7x5 - i.e. the current prime times the next prime. i checked it held true for 7 and 11 but wondered if it was universal
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Think of it this way. Let $p_k$ be the $k$ prime. Let $n$ be the first composite number greater than $p_k$ so that $n$ is not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$.



Claim: $n = p_kcdot p_k+1$.



Pf:



What else could it be? $n$ must have a prime factors. And those prime factor must be greater the $p_k+1$. The smallest number with at least two prime factors all bigger than $p_k-1$ must be $p_kcdot p_k+1$ because $p_k, p_k+1$ are the smallest choices for prime factors and the fewer prime factors the smaller the number will be.



so $n= p_kp_k+1$ IF $n$ has at least two prime factors.



So if $nne p_kp_k+1$ then 1) $n le p_kp_k+1$ and 2) $n$ has only one prime factor so $n=q^m$ for some prime $q$ and integer $m$.



If so, then $q ge p_k+1$ then $q^m ge p_k+1^mge p_k+1^2 > p_k*p_k+1$ which is a contradiction so $q= p_k$ and $n = p_k^m > p_k^2$. As $n$ is the smallest possible number, $n = p_k^3$ and $p_k^3 < p_k*p_k+1$.



That would mean $p_k^2 < p_k+1$.



This is impossible by Bertrands postulate.



So indeed the next composite number not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$ larger than $p_k^2$ is $p_kp_k+1$.






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    gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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Yes. First let me clarify what you are trying to say. Suppose we have a prime number $p$, and consider the smallest integer $n$ greater than $p^2$ which is a multiple of $p$ but which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$. The pattern you are observing is then that $n/p$ is the smallest prime number greater than $p$.



This is indeed true in general. To prove it, note that the multiples of $p$ are just numbers of the form $ap$ where $a$ is an integer. So in finding the smallest such multiple $n$ which is not divisible by any primes less than $p$, you are just finding the smallest integer $a>p$ which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$ and setting $n=ap$. Every prime factor of this $a$ is greater than or equal to $p$. Let us first suppose that $a$ has a prime factor $q$ which is greater than $p$. Then by minimality of $a$, we must have $a=q$ (otherwise $q$ would be a smaller candidate for $a$). Moreover, by minimality $a$ must be the smallest prime greater than $p$ (any smaller such prime would be a smaller candidate for $a$). So, $a=n/p$ is indeed the smallest prime greater than $p$.



The remaining case is that $a$ has no prime factors greater than $p$, which means $p$ is its only prime factor. That is, $a$ is a power of $p$. Then $ageq p^2$ (and in fact $a=p^2$ by minimality). As before, $a$ must be less than any prime greater than $p$ by minimality. This means there are no prime numbers $q$ such that $p<q<p^2$. However, this is impossible, for instance by Bertrand's postulate (or see There is a prime between $n$ and $n^2$, without Bertrand for a simpler direct proof).






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    Think of it this way. Let $p_k$ be the $k$ prime. Let $n$ be the first composite number greater than $p_k$ so that $n$ is not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$.



    Claim: $n = p_kcdot p_k+1$.



    Pf:



    What else could it be? $n$ must have a prime factors. And those prime factor must be greater the $p_k+1$. The smallest number with at least two prime factors all bigger than $p_k-1$ must be $p_kcdot p_k+1$ because $p_k, p_k+1$ are the smallest choices for prime factors and the fewer prime factors the smaller the number will be.



    so $n= p_kp_k+1$ IF $n$ has at least two prime factors.



    So if $nne p_kp_k+1$ then 1) $n le p_kp_k+1$ and 2) $n$ has only one prime factor so $n=q^m$ for some prime $q$ and integer $m$.



    If so, then $q ge p_k+1$ then $q^m ge p_k+1^mge p_k+1^2 > p_k*p_k+1$ which is a contradiction so $q= p_k$ and $n = p_k^m > p_k^2$. As $n$ is the smallest possible number, $n = p_k^3$ and $p_k^3 < p_k*p_k+1$.



    That would mean $p_k^2 < p_k+1$.



    This is impossible by Bertrands postulate.



    So indeed the next composite number not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$ larger than $p_k^2$ is $p_kp_k+1$.






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      gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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      Actually on reading eric's it seems we really more or less have the same answer.
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      yes, i just meant i personally found your phrasing a little easier to understand, not being a mathematician, but both are good answers
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    Think of it this way. Let $p_k$ be the $k$ prime. Let $n$ be the first composite number greater than $p_k$ so that $n$ is not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$.



    Claim: $n = p_kcdot p_k+1$.



    Pf:



    What else could it be? $n$ must have a prime factors. And those prime factor must be greater the $p_k+1$. The smallest number with at least two prime factors all bigger than $p_k-1$ must be $p_kcdot p_k+1$ because $p_k, p_k+1$ are the smallest choices for prime factors and the fewer prime factors the smaller the number will be.



    so $n= p_kp_k+1$ IF $n$ has at least two prime factors.



    So if $nne p_kp_k+1$ then 1) $n le p_kp_k+1$ and 2) $n$ has only one prime factor so $n=q^m$ for some prime $q$ and integer $m$.



    If so, then $q ge p_k+1$ then $q^m ge p_k+1^mge p_k+1^2 > p_k*p_k+1$ which is a contradiction so $q= p_k$ and $n = p_k^m > p_k^2$. As $n$ is the smallest possible number, $n = p_k^3$ and $p_k^3 < p_k*p_k+1$.



    That would mean $p_k^2 < p_k+1$.



    This is impossible by Bertrands postulate.



    So indeed the next composite number not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$ larger than $p_k^2$ is $p_kp_k+1$.






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      gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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    Think of it this way. Let $p_k$ be the $k$ prime. Let $n$ be the first composite number greater than $p_k$ so that $n$ is not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$.



    Claim: $n = p_kcdot p_k+1$.



    Pf:



    What else could it be? $n$ must have a prime factors. And those prime factor must be greater the $p_k+1$. The smallest number with at least two prime factors all bigger than $p_k-1$ must be $p_kcdot p_k+1$ because $p_k, p_k+1$ are the smallest choices for prime factors and the fewer prime factors the smaller the number will be.



    so $n= p_kp_k+1$ IF $n$ has at least two prime factors.



    So if $nne p_kp_k+1$ then 1) $n le p_kp_k+1$ and 2) $n$ has only one prime factor so $n=q^m$ for some prime $q$ and integer $m$.



    If so, then $q ge p_k+1$ then $q^m ge p_k+1^mge p_k+1^2 > p_k*p_k+1$ which is a contradiction so $q= p_k$ and $n = p_k^m > p_k^2$. As $n$ is the smallest possible number, $n = p_k^3$ and $p_k^3 < p_k*p_k+1$.



    That would mean $p_k^2 < p_k+1$.



    This is impossible by Bertrands postulate.



    So indeed the next composite number not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$ larger than $p_k^2$ is $p_kp_k+1$.






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    Think of it this way. Let $p_k$ be the $k$ prime. Let $n$ be the first composite number greater than $p_k$ so that $n$ is not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$.



    Claim: $n = p_kcdot p_k+1$.



    Pf:



    What else could it be? $n$ must have a prime factors. And those prime factor must be greater the $p_k+1$. The smallest number with at least two prime factors all bigger than $p_k-1$ must be $p_kcdot p_k+1$ because $p_k, p_k+1$ are the smallest choices for prime factors and the fewer prime factors the smaller the number will be.



    so $n= p_kp_k+1$ IF $n$ has at least two prime factors.



    So if $nne p_kp_k+1$ then 1) $n le p_kp_k+1$ and 2) $n$ has only one prime factor so $n=q^m$ for some prime $q$ and integer $m$.



    If so, then $q ge p_k+1$ then $q^m ge p_k+1^mge p_k+1^2 > p_k*p_k+1$ which is a contradiction so $q= p_k$ and $n = p_k^m > p_k^2$. As $n$ is the smallest possible number, $n = p_k^3$ and $p_k^3 < p_k*p_k+1$.



    That would mean $p_k^2 < p_k+1$.



    This is impossible by Bertrands postulate.



    So indeed the next composite number not divisible by $p_1,..., p_k-1$ larger than $p_k^2$ is $p_kp_k+1$.







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      gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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      Actually on reading eric's it seems we really more or less have the same answer.
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      yes, i just meant i personally found your phrasing a little easier to understand, not being a mathematician, but both are good answers
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      gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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      Actually on reading eric's it seems we really more or less have the same answer.
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      yes, i just meant i personally found your phrasing a little easier to understand, not being a mathematician, but both are good answers
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      – David
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    gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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    – David
    33 mins ago





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    gotcha. its like a numerical logical tautology. wish I could mark both correct. no disrespect to eric who also had a good answer and got there first, but this one i understood a bit easier.
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    – David
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    Actually on reading eric's it seems we really more or less have the same answer.
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    – fleablood
    16 mins ago




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    Actually on reading eric's it seems we really more or less have the same answer.
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    – fleablood
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    yes, i just meant i personally found your phrasing a little easier to understand, not being a mathematician, but both are good answers
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    – David
    3 mins ago




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    yes, i just meant i personally found your phrasing a little easier to understand, not being a mathematician, but both are good answers
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    Yes. First let me clarify what you are trying to say. Suppose we have a prime number $p$, and consider the smallest integer $n$ greater than $p^2$ which is a multiple of $p$ but which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$. The pattern you are observing is then that $n/p$ is the smallest prime number greater than $p$.



    This is indeed true in general. To prove it, note that the multiples of $p$ are just numbers of the form $ap$ where $a$ is an integer. So in finding the smallest such multiple $n$ which is not divisible by any primes less than $p$, you are just finding the smallest integer $a>p$ which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$ and setting $n=ap$. Every prime factor of this $a$ is greater than or equal to $p$. Let us first suppose that $a$ has a prime factor $q$ which is greater than $p$. Then by minimality of $a$, we must have $a=q$ (otherwise $q$ would be a smaller candidate for $a$). Moreover, by minimality $a$ must be the smallest prime greater than $p$ (any smaller such prime would be a smaller candidate for $a$). So, $a=n/p$ is indeed the smallest prime greater than $p$.



    The remaining case is that $a$ has no prime factors greater than $p$, which means $p$ is its only prime factor. That is, $a$ is a power of $p$. Then $ageq p^2$ (and in fact $a=p^2$ by minimality). As before, $a$ must be less than any prime greater than $p$ by minimality. This means there are no prime numbers $q$ such that $p<q<p^2$. However, this is impossible, for instance by Bertrand's postulate (or see There is a prime between $n$ and $n^2$, without Bertrand for a simpler direct proof).






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      Yes. First let me clarify what you are trying to say. Suppose we have a prime number $p$, and consider the smallest integer $n$ greater than $p^2$ which is a multiple of $p$ but which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$. The pattern you are observing is then that $n/p$ is the smallest prime number greater than $p$.



      This is indeed true in general. To prove it, note that the multiples of $p$ are just numbers of the form $ap$ where $a$ is an integer. So in finding the smallest such multiple $n$ which is not divisible by any primes less than $p$, you are just finding the smallest integer $a>p$ which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$ and setting $n=ap$. Every prime factor of this $a$ is greater than or equal to $p$. Let us first suppose that $a$ has a prime factor $q$ which is greater than $p$. Then by minimality of $a$, we must have $a=q$ (otherwise $q$ would be a smaller candidate for $a$). Moreover, by minimality $a$ must be the smallest prime greater than $p$ (any smaller such prime would be a smaller candidate for $a$). So, $a=n/p$ is indeed the smallest prime greater than $p$.



      The remaining case is that $a$ has no prime factors greater than $p$, which means $p$ is its only prime factor. That is, $a$ is a power of $p$. Then $ageq p^2$ (and in fact $a=p^2$ by minimality). As before, $a$ must be less than any prime greater than $p$ by minimality. This means there are no prime numbers $q$ such that $p<q<p^2$. However, this is impossible, for instance by Bertrand's postulate (or see There is a prime between $n$ and $n^2$, without Bertrand for a simpler direct proof).






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        Yes. First let me clarify what you are trying to say. Suppose we have a prime number $p$, and consider the smallest integer $n$ greater than $p^2$ which is a multiple of $p$ but which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$. The pattern you are observing is then that $n/p$ is the smallest prime number greater than $p$.



        This is indeed true in general. To prove it, note that the multiples of $p$ are just numbers of the form $ap$ where $a$ is an integer. So in finding the smallest such multiple $n$ which is not divisible by any primes less than $p$, you are just finding the smallest integer $a>p$ which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$ and setting $n=ap$. Every prime factor of this $a$ is greater than or equal to $p$. Let us first suppose that $a$ has a prime factor $q$ which is greater than $p$. Then by minimality of $a$, we must have $a=q$ (otherwise $q$ would be a smaller candidate for $a$). Moreover, by minimality $a$ must be the smallest prime greater than $p$ (any smaller such prime would be a smaller candidate for $a$). So, $a=n/p$ is indeed the smallest prime greater than $p$.



        The remaining case is that $a$ has no prime factors greater than $p$, which means $p$ is its only prime factor. That is, $a$ is a power of $p$. Then $ageq p^2$ (and in fact $a=p^2$ by minimality). As before, $a$ must be less than any prime greater than $p$ by minimality. This means there are no prime numbers $q$ such that $p<q<p^2$. However, this is impossible, for instance by Bertrand's postulate (or see There is a prime between $n$ and $n^2$, without Bertrand for a simpler direct proof).






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        Yes. First let me clarify what you are trying to say. Suppose we have a prime number $p$, and consider the smallest integer $n$ greater than $p^2$ which is a multiple of $p$ but which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$. The pattern you are observing is then that $n/p$ is the smallest prime number greater than $p$.



        This is indeed true in general. To prove it, note that the multiples of $p$ are just numbers of the form $ap$ where $a$ is an integer. So in finding the smallest such multiple $n$ which is not divisible by any primes less than $p$, you are just finding the smallest integer $a>p$ which is not divisible by any prime less than $p$ and setting $n=ap$. Every prime factor of this $a$ is greater than or equal to $p$. Let us first suppose that $a$ has a prime factor $q$ which is greater than $p$. Then by minimality of $a$, we must have $a=q$ (otherwise $q$ would be a smaller candidate for $a$). Moreover, by minimality $a$ must be the smallest prime greater than $p$ (any smaller such prime would be a smaller candidate for $a$). So, $a=n/p$ is indeed the smallest prime greater than $p$.



        The remaining case is that $a$ has no prime factors greater than $p$, which means $p$ is its only prime factor. That is, $a$ is a power of $p$. Then $ageq p^2$ (and in fact $a=p^2$ by minimality). As before, $a$ must be less than any prime greater than $p$ by minimality. This means there are no prime numbers $q$ such that $p<q<p^2$. However, this is impossible, for instance by Bertrand's postulate (or see There is a prime between $n$ and $n^2$, without Bertrand for a simpler direct proof).







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